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Dying with their boots on

August 6, 2008 12:00 AM
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formwiz
August 9, 2008 05:18 PM

Disagree strongly on several points. The Wild West began when John Colter asked for a discharge from Lewis and Clark to trap furs in the Rocky Mountains. That was beginning of the exploration and settlement of the Trans-Mississippi West. "The Big Sky" is every bit as much a Western as "The Big Country". To really be accurate the first Western heroes were people like Robert Rogers and Daniel Boone. They fought the wars that secured the Trans-Allegheny West (there's a reason the states of Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, and Michigan were known as the Old Northwest). The same kind of Indian fighting and lawlessness were seen in Alabama and Tennessee and Illinois (and even Massachusetts and Pennsylvania) as in Texas. The Cumberland Gap was just as important a gateway as South Pass. Even more to the point, it was James Fenimore Cooper, not Owen Wister, who invented the Western. Natty Bumppo (Deerslayer/Pathfinder/Leatherstocking) was the first Western good guy, not the Virginian (he even had the first faithful Indian companion). When Disney reran the Davy Crockett episodes back in the early 60's, I was surprised that the paper called them "good Westerns", but some reflection on the subject and the description made sense. The real issue is that the pictures mentioned ("Josey Wales", etc.) are examples of the moral equivalence and relativism which infected Hollyweird during and after the infiltration of the picture business by the KGB (see the Venona Diaries, etc.). The traditional, heroic Westerns, not to mention war, police, mystery, historical (don't even mention Biblicals), and even sci-fi movies, were abolished in the late 60's - 70's by the useful idiots (Lenin's phrase, not mine) who have been running Tinseltown ever since and who have made pictures to suit themselves, not the audience. That's why now they are reduced to making movies based on old TV shows and comic books. Off topic, but not irrelevant - the news that Jon Voight ("Midnight Cowboy") has begun to publicly question the Communist manipulation of the picture business 40 years ago has led to calls for his blacklisting on sites like Kos and HuffPo, partly as "revenge" for the '50s blacklist. Anyone who's been paying attention knows there's been a blacklist of non-leftists since the late Sixties (consider the careers of Aldo Ray and Jim Hutton after they made "The Green Berets"). Not a subject for Osprey books, but history nonetheless.

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formwiz
August 9, 2008 05:52 PM

Quick PS The end of the Wild West period by what I think is almost universal agreement would be the beginning of WWI. Consider Frank Norris' "The Octopus" (inspiration for "The Big Valley"), written as a contemporary tale in 1901 or John Sturges' "Last Train From Gun Hill", which shows an election poster for Teddy Roosevelt for President, putting it around 1904 or later. So you have a span of a little more that a century, Lewis and Clark to WWI

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