I keep looking at Victory at Sea to use it with the Wizards of the Coast/Avalon Hill War at Sea miniatures. I think the idea of playing it with prepainted miniatures for it makes the game very accessible for new players. Shame they are packaged in a collectible manner!
Richard
Posted by: Richard Clyne | October 31, 2007 at 12:48 PM
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I have fond memories of the old Micronauts series, which I believe is still in production. It had a wide variety of vessels from the eras of WWI and WWII. Indeed, I think Victory at Sea may be covering the wrong war, as World War I had equally interesting naval battle potential and much more use of capital ships. The odd thing was that the dreadnoughts were so valuable to their owners that they were militarily useless -- you couldn't dare risk losing them by actually putting them to use against the enemy! So the German Grand Fleet spent almost the entire war sitting in port while the U-Boats were actually giving Germany its best, slim chance of enforcing a blockade on Britain.
Posted by: Michael Hopcroft | October 31, 2007 at 09:05 PM
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As an avid WWII naval wargamer myself, I am glad to finally be able to use my large fleets of metal ships again!
Many of my capital ships are from GHQ since their detailing is top notch, but the bulk of my fleets are from the defunct C-in-C lines since they were VERY economical (in comparison to GHQ) and, once painted, made fairly good representations on a tabletop. C-in-C also made some unusual ships, like the Dutch, that nobody else did.
After reading the reveiws of VaS, and being a fan of Mongoose's B5 Call to Arms (similar in many respects to VaS), I cannot wait to get a copy of this game!
Good hunting and good luck!
Posted by: Larry Fausnacht | October 31, 2007 at 09:18 PM
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Thats a nice review. Naval wargaming has interested me for a while but a lot of the games out there seem a little complex for a beginner. This looks nice indeed.
Oh, and I love the look of the Navwar midels I have seen photographed around the net - they are part of the reason the naval thing has caught my interest...
Shane
Posted by: Shane | October 31, 2007 at 09:34 PM
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I only know of two naval minitures, War at Sea, and micro armor. The advantage to War at Sea is they come painted and ready to go. Disadvantage is you have no idea what you are going to get. With micro armor, you can pick what you want, but need to paint. Micro armor is slightly higher priced as well. I have many War at Sea figs and depending on what ships are in Victory, could fill my fleets out with micro armor.
Brian
Posted by: Brian Maillet | October 31, 2007 at 09:35 PM
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Wizards of the Coast - Axis & Allies War at Sea minis
Posted by: Ron Purvis | November 01, 2007 at 03:38 AM
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I have seen Victory at Sea played with Navwar's miniatures. Looked at that range and it is absolutely huge and inexpensive, which allows you to make up some really big fleets for re-enactments. The detail is not as good as GHQ but at that scale it is more than adequate.
Posted by: Alex Elstone | November 01, 2007 at 08:53 AM
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Never tried naval games, but been a big fan of WW2 period for years and been curious about these rules for a while. Thanks for the review
Posted by: Rob Jones | November 01, 2007 at 09:14 AM
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I have played a few Naval games in my time but VAS looks like a good time without sweating the little stuff.
Posted by: Ray Becker JR | November 01, 2007 at 11:44 AM
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I don't actually know as much about the naval aspects of WWII as I do the land battles (largely thanks to FoW, admittedly...) so I'd welcome the chance to have a go at this. Hit me!
Posted by: Robin Armstrong | November 02, 2007 at 02:58 AM
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As to the variety of pretty miniatures available, however, I'm going to go with the flow and name War At Sea as my fave. I'm usually a little leary of collectible games, but have heard good things about Axis & Allies, and War At Sea DOES look pretty.
Posted by: Proteus454 | November 02, 2007 at 03:00 AM
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NAVWAR has variety of 1:3000 naval miniatures. Quality isnt the best but price is nice.
Posted by: Boguslaw Olszak | November 02, 2007 at 10:06 AM
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I dont have a favorite brand of miniature. But if I won one of the copies of Victory at Sea I would be force to find one :)
Posted by: Dewayne Harris | November 02, 2007 at 10:37 AM
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Hello everybody,
I have had the luck to play victory at sea one time with a friend who bied the rules a time ago. This is the first naval wargame i played (usely we play ancients, middle ages and WW2 air combat)
I was very impressed with this ruleset. Good explained and easy play, yet with very much possibilities.
I have been looking around for a supplier and according to my opinion NAVWAR looks great. they have a wide range and nicely sculped figures with high details.
now get a free copy of the rules??? mmmm that would be nice, then i get to spend more money on the ships...
Posted by: Bert Van den Berghe | November 02, 2007 at 05:51 PM
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I'm mostly familiar with land based miniatures from Battlefront and Old Glory. VaS seems like fun to play
Posted by: David Toye | November 02, 2007 at 07:27 PM
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liewise I'm not familiar but know Mongoose makes very playable rules.
Posted by: Damien Macomber | November 02, 2007 at 07:28 PM
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I tried this once at a friends of a friends house it was a hoot from the short time I was able to play it. GHQ is my fav although I don't have many of them. Hope I win !
Posted by: lutz_osprey | November 02, 2007 at 10:39 PM
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choice really, wizards models come prepainted - easy to use, navwar more choice, better range, but more work. In the end comes down on how much effort you want to put in and the accuracy you desire. Personnally the some i'm blowing ships outta of the water, the better...
Posted by: Marc Taylor | November 03, 2007 at 01:05 AM
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I go with Panzerschiffe 1:2400-scale ships. They are detailed enough to pass the "three foot test" and they are probably the least expensive models in this scale on the market. They are also pretty close to indestructible; given that I do a number of demonstration and convention games every year this is a very strong selling point for me.
LT
Posted by: Larry Tuohy | November 03, 2007 at 12:39 PM
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We play quite a bit of Navel games and are currently planning a WW2 campaign. Most of teh models are Navwar but personaly I like 1/1200 scale. Victory at Sea look like a very good candidate for our club campaign an a tryout would I think win over the body of membership.
Posted by: Steve Tulk - Chairman NLWG | November 04, 2007 at 09:56 AM
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Have been playing WWII land and air battles for a while, looking for a set of rules that deal with sea battles using 1:1200/1:1250 coastal and 1:2400 scale battles along with aircraft.
Been looking for VaS and General Quarters, not sure which one fits the bill best. Any suggestions??
Posted by: George Bachmann | November 04, 2007 at 10:34 AM
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Thanks for the review. I have been tempted to try this one for a couple of months. Miniaturewise it's Navwar for me.
Posted by: Will Barris | November 04, 2007 at 08:42 PM
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Here in the states we have television shows of people playing poker. I think tv shows of people playing war games like Victory at Sea would be more interesting.
Posted by: GENE | November 05, 2007 at 03:58 PM
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Panzerschiffe makes great ship miniatures that are affordable......my entier IJN fleet is from them....
http://www.panzerschiffe.com/index.html
Posted by: Jason Youngdale | November 05, 2007 at 04:52 PM
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I've used the 1:3000 ships from Navwar for many years and been very happy with them.
Posted by: Dave Spender | November 05, 2007 at 05:41 PM
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It does sound very interesting. Not sure about the absracted torpedo attacks [ just because I like to see them on the board. ] Navwar would have to be my favorite miniature ships.
Posted by: Kelly McBride | November 06, 2007 at 05:34 AM
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I use Figurehead miniatures. They are 1/3000 so you lose some modeling detail,
but you don'tfeel like you're manuvering in a fishbowl. However for there size the detail is impressive.
Timo
Posted by: Tim O | November 06, 2007 at 02:22 PM
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Sorry...Figurehead miniatures are 1/6000.
My bad.
Timo
Posted by: Timo | November 06, 2007 at 02:52 PM
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I like the GHQ models for World War II gaming, the 1/2400 scale warships are gorgeous.
Posted by: Dave | November 06, 2007 at 10:30 PM
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I like and paint GHQ 1/2400, pt dockyard 1/600 and tamiya 1/700 ships
Posted by: Dave | November 08, 2007 at 01:09 AM
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Not sure about these rules but I'll try anything once.
I already have a large collection of 1/3000 WW2 ships mainly from Navwar. Over the years the quality of casting has been improving and I like the balance between reasonable playing area and identification of the models.
Posted by: Alan Davison | November 08, 2007 at 01:14 PM
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Victory at Sea looks like a great game, fast moving, easy to learn, and a fair bit of detail. having played Fletcher Pratt and General Quarters over the years. this looks like a great game, especially for beginners
Posted by: Kevin Walsh | April 13, 2008 at 06:37 PM
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Victory at Sea looks like a great game, fast moving, easy to learn, and a fair bit of detail. having played Fletcher Pratt and General Quarters over the years. this looks like a great game, especially for beginners
Posted by: Kevin Walsh | April 13, 2008 at 06:37 PM
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War at Sea Naval Minatures with house rules
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