Which subjects should we re-visit? Elite

July 1, 2014 12:00 AM

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02-Jul-2014 13:24

This gives me a second chance to sound very erudite.

Vikings -- As Mike said there has been so much development and new archeological research on the subject that this book begs to be revisited.

Pirates -- Shiver me timbers ye dog. Revisit this book or I'll make ye walk the plank. Arrrgghhh!!!!!!

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02-Jul-2014 16:29


I suggest:

1) Gurkhas: 19th century, WW1, WW2, Post 1947 service in British and Indian Armies.

2) UN Forces 1948–94: More coverage in detail and expand to post 1994 operations.

3)Extra vote for the US Army Rangers & LRRP Units 1942–87 suggested in some deleted post.

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02-Jul-2014 16:51

I shall repeat my request for the books on NATO and Warsaw Pact to have second volumes dealing with developments after the fall of the Berlin Wall.

I'd also like at least one book dealing with the French army after 1945, BUT LEAVE OUT THE S*DDING FOREIGN LEGION!!

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02-Jul-2014 16:59

1. NATO Armies
With ex-WP, ex-Soviet, ex-Jugoslav and ex-non-aligned members it is different than the Cold War NATO. A revised/new multiple volume NATO Armies title for the enlarged NATO from 1999 is a logical conclusion to the late-80s books covering European Cold War armies.
2. UN Forces 1948-94
Unfortunately the UN peace-keeping missions continued after 1994.
I also support a revision of the Persian Army title.

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02-Jul-2014 18:38

well, here we go again:

1) Attila and the Nomad Hordes

my favorutie book and has Angus mcBride artwork but the research of the last 24 years warrants a new one.

2) Commander subseries

Command series is gone, but the Commanders susberies of Elite was great. Russian commanders of the Napoleonic Wars waiting to be covered.

3) Supporting: Persian Army 560-330 BC

crappy artwork and a relative lack of new related content over the years (as opposed to Ancient Greeks for example) make this an obvious choice.

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02-Jul-2014 19:03

1) Pike and Shot tactics - A new book covering the early-mid twenty century (The italian wars, anglo-scottish wars, protestant vs catholics in Germany, french wars of religion, etc). Basically, Discussion Pike and Shot tactics before the Dutch reforms of prince Maurice.

2) Early Samurai/Attila and the Nomadic Hordes/Mounted Archers of the Steppes - Amazing tremes, but the original ones try to cover too much in 1 volume. All those could be multi-volume.

3) SUPPORT: The Persian Army 560 330 - With updated research and better illustrations

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02-Jul-2014 20:32

For me it will be:
1) Attila and the nomad hordes

2) The crusades


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02-Jul-2014 22:10

The US Marine Corps Since 1945 could be subdivided into a couple of Elites. Heck, the USMC in the Korean War alone could merit its own title. Since Vietnam Marines covers that period (plus Vietnamese and ROK marines), it could probably be skipped over, but that still leaves plenty of material for another volume.
NATO Armies might need a bit of an upgrade.
I support a new Elite on the Vikings. No, it's not because I'm eating some of those Danish butter cookies right now.

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02-Jul-2014 22:11

Sorry Painty,
I didn't see you requested a new volume on NATO first.

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02-Jul-2014 23:05

Very hard to say only two and support only one. The SAS was already mentioned in last month's book vote - I voted for it, and I hope for new books - so I will choose the following:

- Marine and Airborne forces: we don't have non-US or British marines and paras. This topic screams to be revisited. The book on the British Paras is old, the USMC truly deserves more titles (US Marines in Korea is a good title), but other NATO and non-NATO elite forces also deserve (or screams?) to be published. The Russian/Soviet airborne forces, the Portuguese paras and marines in Africa, Belgian Paracommandos, French paratroopers, Colombian paras and marines, ROK paras and marines etc...

- NATO armies: a lot changed and only British and French are notewhorthy contributors. There is already US and British books, we desperatly need some coverage about the French (two major wars, the professionalization process initiated in 1962, more than 65 military interventions after the Évian Accords, Division Daguet, etc), modifications in old allied nations (Portugal, a founding member, still had Macao and East Timor in the early 1990's) and the inclusion of new ones (Baltic States for exemple, they are receiving Russian soldiers escaping from their concentration camps in Russia - "training camps' is am euphemism). I believe the lack of interested by the NATO countries in shouldering their responsabilities should be addressed, as such, an American author is ill-advised, and only one volume would be pointless.

- I support LRRP tactics and units: only US forces received Osprey treatment but the British and French doctrines are superior. I made a topic about this elsewhere...

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03-Jul-2014 11:03

Why have several posts been deleted?

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Mike @ Osprey
03-Jul-2014 11:42

Basti - unfortunately to get our website fixed we had to essentially teleport it back in time, to before the bug first knocked everything over. Whilst this fixed the issue it did mean that we lost some of the data (blog and forum comments in particular) which had been uploaded. We will try to copy across some of the old comments and paste them into the blog above though to try not to lose too many of the great suggestions.

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03-Jul-2014 11:50

Thank You!

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03-Jul-2014 23:09

The NVA need a new, more complete book

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04-Jul-2014 15:45

Soviet Blog Elite Forces and Inside the US Army need total upgrading.

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04-Jul-2014 18:09

Much has been said about both the Vikings and the horse peoples of the steppe. I would like an Elite book about the early Russ. Particularly their transition from amphibious infantry to steppe horsemen. (For anyone unfamiliar with the Russ, the Riders of Rohan in the Lord Of The Rings films were armed and costumed as early Russ cavalry.)

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04-Jul-2014 22:11

Elite 8 "Israeli Defense Forces Since 1973" is a fascinating subject of great importance and interest. This book was published nearly three decades ago and is completely out of date. It needs to be updated. In addition, it is too broad a topic for one volume. I suggest one volume for IDF ground forces, and a second volume for IDF air/space and naval forces.

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05-Jul-2014 00:27

I wish this sort of thing was done sooner, that way I would've bounced right in. The subjects I wish you guys revisit are the German Medieval Armies. But as you can see, the subject is quite large because of the enormous amount of information on the subject. So therefore it has to be done by Heimat (this means homeland which is a loose translation of the German word). Every region in medieval Germany works differently. Therefore I think I could come up with a few ways as to how and why this subject should be looked into and which of the Heimats would best serve as sources of information in regards to region, perhaps even troops, movements, practices, divisions of government, laws, maybe even daily living and history. Since I'm only allowed two suggestions, then I'll pick subjects that haven't been touched yet.

1st Suggestion: Austrian Medieval Armies 976-1246

Why: Because it's an important topic to those studying Austrian history. It would broaden the horizons of readers and even clue in on Austria and what Austria is. Many people don't understand the difference between the German race and the Austrian Heimat. That's why I didn't like the German Medieval Armies 1000-1300 title (Not that it was bad, it wasn't, it was great), because it simply tried to cover all of Germany when it was simply impossible. You have to focus on Germany by its princes. That leads to me how it can be done.

How: Here are a list of books, university personnel, artists and links that can be accessed to make this book.

A. Karl Lechner's (1976). Die Babenberger: Markgrafen und Herzoge von Österreich 976–1246

Lechner is THE Austrian for medieval austrian information. It's a shame he went to be with God in 1975, but God wills what God wills. His book offers high-quality information on medieval Austria. The down-side is that it's in German. So you have to find someone who speaks German, like me. Perhaps more information other than being the country that caught Richard the Lionheart in 1192 would put things in perspective.

B. Alexander Leeper's (1941). History of Medieval Austria

If you want to read something in English, then THIS is the book to have. It doesn't cover every year of Austria exactly, but it gives more information than any English-writer ever has as far as I'm concerned. Including the importance of the ceremonial girding by Leopold VI, the rise of Leopold V the Virtuous and even the holy life of Saint Leopold III von Austria.

C. Heinz Dopsch's (1999) Österreichische Geschichte 1122-1278

Unlike Leeper and Lechner, who are both with God, Dopsch should still be alive and working at the University of Salzburg. This is Dopsch's information: http://www.uni-salzburg.at/index.php?id=23266

What I like about his work is that it has pictures, pictures that could be used for the Osprey book, I think.

There are also various primary sources in English that can be used, Otto of Freising's work, The Crusade of Frederick Barbarossa: The History of the Expedition of the Emperor Frederick and Related Texts (Crusade Texts in Translation), Ottonian Germany: The Chronicon of Thietmar of Merseburg.

For the art plates, I wish I could say Angus McBride, but I'm told he's passed away. So here are a few artists I could recommend.

1. Mario Wibisono
2. Miguel Coimbra
3. Michael Komarck (This one I really recommend)
4. Steve Prescott
5. Jasper Sandner
6. Christopher Moeller

Most of them focus on card games, but if you check out their work, you'd understand why I would consider them.

2nd Suggestion: And I pick Viking because everyone else does so too. Although if it were up to me, I'd pick Brandenburg Medieval Armies 920-1320.

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05-Jul-2014 18:05

1) US navy seals: a title definitely to be expanded;
2) Us special forces : same as above.

support: Israeli elite forces and Royal Marines.

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06-Jul-2014 07:44

Elite, I suggest:
# The books aboout the other side of the Iron curtain. Published during the Cold war, there is more information aviable now. Soviet Bloc Elite forces (5) and “WP Ground forces” (10) and also the air and naval.
# “The Indian army 1914-47” (75) a multi-volumes about ww1 and ww2, maybe MAA (as for other in Commonwealth), and Gurkhas (se next).

I support:
49) “The Gurkas”, but i suggest a Warrior for this warriors.
54) UN Forces 1948-94 (maybe a General Military)
60) U-boat Crews 1914-45, two separate for WW1 and WW2 is a good idea (not my personal interrest, but its a gap).
The Persian army (42) is a good idea.
And also about Medieval siege warfare (28) – I like the Tactics in the Elite-series.
If you reviset “The vikings” (3) you must keep the artwork of Angus McBride, in my opinon probably the best Osprey-artwork!

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06-Jul-2014 14:42

I have already mentioned the Russ. There are many other worthy suggestions, but I agree about the Achaemenid Persians. Osprey coverage of this vastly important empire is scanty, out of date and has sub standard artwork. Perhaps an Elite on The Immortals, spanning the history of the dynasty?

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06-Jul-2014 20:31


1. Sassanian Elite Cavalry
While the book is very good, the artworks are very erroneous and getting them revised (or even better make new artworks) would be very appreciated. Guiseppe Rava would be an excellent choice (some time ago he said, he would like to draw Sassanians ;) ).

2. I support "The Persian Army 560-330 BC"

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GI Gene
07-Jul-2014 03:58

All of these have already been mentioned, so allow me to express my support for the following:

Elite #8- Israeli Defense Forces since 1973. Published in 1986, all you have to do release a volume or two that covers the Army, Air Force, and Naval components of the IDF since 1987.

Elite #38- The NVA and Viet Cong. Just focus on the land, air, and naval forces of North Vietnam from 1959 to the border skirmishes with China in the 1980's.

Elite #54- UN Forces 1948-94. This is a good example of trying to do too much with so little. Focus on UN operations that saw the blue helmets come under fire like the Congo, Cyprus, Lebanon, Somalia etc. Two volumes could cover the Cold War era, while two more could cover the post Cold War era.

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23-Jul-2014 21:16


I think that German Special Forces of WWII need more detailed coverage. The Book " German Special Forces of WW II" was trying to cover all the braches of Wehrmacht.
Maybe separate elite titles of Brandenburgers, Jagdkommandos, K-verband and so on or maybe to titles like the Italian special forces books are done.


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